RYSSÄ painosti Suomen luopumaan Kosovon tunnustamisesta !!

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JUMALAUTA .... nyt presidentin vaalit HETI poikkeuslailla, Niinistö
pressaksi ja NATO:oon HETI eikä 15. päivä ... !!!
Tämähän on kuin vanhoina neukkuaikoina, nämä ryssän rengit Haloska
ja Luimuoja vievät maan taas perikatoon, ryssän ORJUUTEEN ... !!!

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Halonen lykkää päätöstä tunnustaa Kosovo
Julkaistu: 12:46

Kari Huhta

helsingin sanomat

Tarja Halonen

Suomi lykkää Kosovon itsenäisyyden virallista tunnustamista.

Presidentti Tarja Halosen oli alkuperäisen aikataulun mukaan määrä hyväksyä hallituksen esitys Kosovon tunnustamiseksi presidentin esittelyssä perjantaina. Presidentin kansliasta kuitenkin kerrottiin Helsingin Sanomille keskiviikkona, että Kosovo ei ole mukana esityslistalla.

Virallisen tunnustuksen lykkääntyminen johtuu presidentin matka-aikataulusta, eikä siihen liity dramatiikka, sanottiin kansliasta. Halonen palaa Suomeen matkaltaan Aasiaan perjantaina aamuna.

Presidentin aikataulu ei kuitenkaan ole johtanut koko presidentin esittelyn peruuntumiseen.

Presidentin edustajat eivät osanneet sanoa, onko Kosovon tunnustaminen esille seuraavassa esittelyssä viikon kuluttua.

Virkamieslähteiden mukaan kaikki oli

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Kyllähän siitä melko koominen tilanne syntyisi, jos ja kun entinen presidenttimme Ahtisaari oli valmistelemassa Kosovon itsenäistymistä, ja nykyinen presidenttimme ei sitä suostuisi tunnustamaan!

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Kyllähän siitä melko koominen tilanne syntyisi, jos ja kun entinen presidenttimme Ahtisaari oli valmistelemassa Kosovon itsenäistymistä, ja nykyinen presidenttimme ei sitä suostuisi tunnustamaan!

Toisaalta joo, mutta ei Ahtisaarikaan varmasti toivonut, että kun yhteisymmärrystä ei asiasta tullut, niin Kosovo ottaa oikeuden omiin käsiin ja julistaa itsensä itsenäiseksi...välittämättä seurauksista!

Ymmärrän kosovolaisten halun itsenäistyä, mutta tässä taas huomataan, miten naiiveja he ovat. Eli ensin voivotellaan, että kun on sota ja sitten iloitaan, että sota loppuu. Taisi tulla aika pitkäksi, kun piti "hätiköiden" julistautua itsenäiseksi. Kyllähän sen nyt tietää, että serbit (+venäjä; jolle asia ei pätkääkään kuulu) eivät tuota julistautumista sotimatta niele.

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Vajaa vuosi sitten nousi julkisuuteen Ahtisaaren firman "konsulttipalkkiot" jos Kosovon sopimus onnistuu.

Korruptio-aiheesta kirjoitettiin mediassakin runsaasi, etenkin eettiset lainoppineet osoittivat kovin sormellaan Ahtisaaren Marttia.

Google: "Ahtisaari korruptio"

Tiede-palstalla on jo keskusteltu Ahtisaaren luottamusongelmista:

http://www.tiede.fi/keskustelut/viewtop ... 9e949c15a6

http://www.promerit.net/forum/index.php ... .6#msg1473

"Serbipoliitikko syyttää Ahtisaarta lahjusten otosta
26.06.2007 15:54

Serbian parlamentin puhemies vaatii tutkintaa väitteistä, joiden mukaan Martti Ahtisaari olisi ottanut vastaan yli 42 miljoonaa euroa albanialaisten rikollispiirien johtohahmolta sekä Kosovon albaanihallitukselta. YK ja Ahtisaari eivät ole kommentoineet asiaa.

Serbian parlamentin puhemies Oliver Dulic syyttää YK:n Kosovon erityislähettilästä Martti Ahtisaarta lahjusten otosta.

Dulicin mukaan Ahtisaari on vastaanottanut lahjuksia albanialaisen järjestäytyneen rikollisuuden johtohahmolta. Vastineeksi lahjuksista Ahtisaari antaisi raportissaan tuen Kosovon itsenäistymiselle. Dulic vaatii asiasta virallista tutkintaa.

Bosnialainen uutistoimisto Focus raportoi lahjusväitteistä viikonloppuna. Focuksen mukaan Saksan tiedustelupalvelu BND on paljastanut kaksi Ahtisaaren pankkitiliä, joille on siirretty kaksi miljoonaa euroa. Focus kertoi Ahtisaaren vastaanottaneen BND:n mukaan myös yli 40 miljoonaa euroa käteisenä. ..."

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Vaikea uskoa Martti Ahtisaaren ottaneen mitään lahjuksia keneltäkään, ottakaa huomioon, että Martti oli jo acedin rauhan neuvotteluiden takana eikä kukaan syyttänyt häntä silloin minkään lahjuksien otosta.

Eli kyseessä on vain mustamaalaus yritys ja siksitoisekseen Asiasta on kommentoitu jo aikasemmin jossa lahjukset kiistettiin.

Ja mitäpä Martti rahalla tekee? Luulisi hänellä olevan sitä jo tarpeeksi, tai hänen taustajoukoillaan.

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Jos se on totta, niin AIKAMOINEN KUUSIPÄÄ se SUOMALAINEN AHTISARI onkin!
Meni suomalaisena härkäpäisinä otuksina sotkemaan vanhan Euroopan asioita… Saaatana! Konflikteille/historialle ja valtioille 1000 vuotta, johon omapäinen kaikentietäjä suomalainen, jolla kokemusta omasta valtiosta ja itsenäisyydestä vasta 90 vuotta ja sekin on jo menetetty EU:lle!
Vvt! Vvt!
Saunan taakseen! Kiitos!

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JA teksti:

"Archive for April, 2007
Marti Ahtisaari and the Waffen SS
Saturday, April 14th, 2007
In 1999, when he was the President of Finland, Marti Ahtisaari’s government wanted to honor and to commemorate the 3,000 Finnish Nazi Waffen SS volunteers that served in Heinrich Himmler’s SS. Why would any governemnt, indeed, why would anyone, want to honor and commemorate SS troops? Why would anyone want to honor and commemorate Nazis and Nazism? This is the question that has remained unanswered in the US and Western media about Marti Ahtisaari. As a sock puppet for the US, NATO, and EU, Ahtisaari’s role in honoring and commemorating the Nazi Waffen SS has been suppressed. As a Chairman Emeritus of ICG he is regarded as part of the globalist elite. His government’s honoring of Finnish Nazi SS troops is a controversial subject that did not register on the radar screen of the mainstream media.

How substantial was the connection between Marti Ahtisaari’s Finland and Nazi Germany? What role did Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler play in Finland? Were the 3,000 Finnish volunteers in the Waffen SS just regular soldiers or were they Nazi shock troops who had sworn their allegiance to Adolf Hitler and to Nazism? These are questions that the mainstream media will not address. They are, nevertheless, meaningful questions that will help us to understand Marti Ahtisaari’s position on Kosovo.

The Finnish SS troops swore a personal oath to the Supreme Commander “Hitler” of the German Armed Forces. The Finnish government recruited these Finnish SS troops. The recruitment was done in secret. The formation of the Finnish Waffen SS unit was organized on March, 1941, three months before the German invasion of the USSR. There was pre-meditation, and planning. Finland was engaged in an unprovoked act of aggression with Finnish ally Nazi Germany. Finland was not occupied by Nazi Germany. Finland allowed Germany to launch land, sea, and air attacks against the Soviet Union from bases in Finland. In other words, the Finnish government and the Finnish people freely chose or decided to be allies with Adolf Hitler and with Nazi Germany.

The name of the formation that was created was the Finnishe Freiwillige Battaillon der Waffen SS, the Finnish Volunteer Battalion of the Waffen SS. The Finnish Nazi SS troops were issued their own national insignia. The Finnish Army even had its own version of the swastika, which was blue in color and discarded after World War II. The secret SS recruitment in Finland went under the name Engineer Bureau “Ratas”. The Finnish recruits came from Helsinki, the capital, where 1,200 were assembled. The Finnish troops were sent to Nazi Germany for training, where they joined several Nazi Waffen SS formations: The 5th SS Division Wiking, the SS Freiwilligen Battalion “Nordost”, their own Finnish Waffen SS unit, and the II SS Regiment “Nordland”, which was part of the Wiking SS Division.

The Finnish Freiwillige Battalion der Waffen SS consisted of three infantry companies and one motorized company and was commanded by German SS Hauptsturmfuehrer Hans Collani. In total, approximately 3,000 Finnish troops were part of SS Reichsfuehrer Heinrich Himmler’s Waffen SS.

The Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal found all SS members to be war criminals who committed crimes against humanity. We then have to ask: Why is Marti Ahtisaari honoring and commemorating war criminals? These Finnish Nazi SS troops were involved in the Holocaust and in genocide. Why isn’t this even news? Why doesn’t Marti Ahtisaari know what the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal held regarding the Waffen SS? Why is he so ignorant or indifferent?

The Finnish rationalization is that Finnish Nazi Waffen SS troops were just regular soldiers. They did nothing wrong. They did swear an oath to Adolf Hitler. They were part of Heinrich Himmler’s Waffen SS, the organization responsible for the Holocaust and the genocide committed against Jews and Gypsies. The Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal did find all SS members to be war criminals. Nevertheless, the Finnish rationale is that they were just regular soldiers. This is a salient case of self-delusion and self-interested rationalization that approaches psychopathology. There is almost a total disconnect here with reality as we know it.
What are the facts?

Finland was an ally of Nazi Germany during World War II, part of the German invasion of the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, Operation Barbarossa. On June 4, 1942, Adolf Hitler made a visit to Finland to coordinate joint efforts by Finland and Nazi Germany to launch renewed attacks against the Soviet Union. The occasion was the 75th birthday of Finnish commander in chief Carl Mannerheim, a former decorated Russian commander. Hitler flew to the Immola air base on a Focke-Wulf FW-200 Condor flown by his personal pilot, SS Gruppenfuehrer Hans Baur. Joining Hitler on the mission was Wilhelm Keitel, the chief of the German Military Command. Hitler met with Finnish President Risto Ryti and with Finnish and German military commanders, including German General Eduard Dietl, the commander of German forces in Finland.

Hitler then had a long conversation with Mannerheim in a railroad car, a conversation that was recorded. German newsreel cameras filmed this historic visit.

Hitler gave Mannerheim a gift of three Steyr-Daimler 1500 A Kommandeurwagen field cars. Hitler personally thanked Mannerheim for Finnish support of Operation Barbarossa.

Finnish “historiography” and Finnish “historians” claim that Mannerheim was not particularly fond of Adolf Hitler or Nazism. But Mannerheim was fond enough of Hitler and Nazism to visit Hitler and Nazi Germany in late June, 1942 on an official state visit. Mannerheim would himself visit Nazi Germany in the summer of 1942 on an official visit where he met with Hitler again and Hermann Goering, the chief of the German Air Force or Luftwaffe, in the presence of Himmler, Alfred Jodl, and Franz Halder, as broadcast in the July 8, 1942 Die Deutsche Wochenschau newsreel. Mannerheim went hunting with Goering. Heinrich Himmler would also visit Finland in 1942 to convince Finland to deport its Jews to the concentration camps.

US Secretary of State Cordell Hull warned the Finnish government that they risked war with the US by the Finnish alliance with Adolf Hitler. British Prime Minister Winston Churchill wrote Mannerheim a letter which threatened him with prosecution after the war for war crimes: “I wish I could convince Your Excellency that we are going to beat the Nazis. I feel far more confident than in 1917 or 1918. It would be most painful to the many friends of your country in England if Finland found herself in the dock with the guilty and defeated Nazis.” Britain, like the US, was contemplating declaring war against Finland. Britain eventually declared war against Finland on December 6, 1941, followed by Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. The US broke off diplomatic relations with Finland. Mannerheim ignored the warnings and continued to ally with Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany. Finland did not have to pay for its alliance with Nazi Germany and Adolf Hitler after World War II. The history of Finland, an enemy combatant during the war, was largely whitewashed and distorted. Not many people are aware of the actual role Finland played during World War II. Marti Ahtisaari was banking on this widespread ignorance.

Nazi Germany had 200,000 troops in Finland. Finnish troops participated in the siege of Leningrad that resulted in the deaths of an estimated over one million Russian civilians. Ironically, the Murmansk and the Leningrad fronts were the two Russian fronts that held during Operation Barbarossa and where the Russians achieved spectacular and brilliant military successes. There were, however, large civilian casualties, which Finland must bear some historical responsibility for. But Ahtisaari and the Finnish government have never acknowledged their role in these deaths, let alone have they made any apology for them. Those lives do not matter.

The Finnish Waffen SS troops fought fiercely and fanatically for Heinrich Himmler. Himmler himself noted that the Finnish Nazi SS troops were among the best Nazi soldiers. Gottlob Berger, the head of the SS Main Office who coordinated recruiting for the Waffen SS, praised the determination and commitment of Finnish Nazi SS troops in suport of Nazism. The Finnish SS troops fought as the advance, shock guard in the German assault on the Ukraine and in the Caucasus. It was the 256 Finnish Nazi SS troops killed during this engagement that Marti Ahtisaari’s government wanted to honor and commemorate in 1999.

Why would Marti Ahtisaari’s government want to honor these Nazi SS war criminals? It is all in how you see the question. For Marti Ahtisaari and the Finnish government, these “alleged” Nazi SS war criminals did nothing wrong. One person’s war criminal is another person’s war hero.

Is this based in any rationality or logic? Isn’t this revisionism and moral relativism of the worst sort? What kind of moral calculus is Marti Ahtisaari guided by? It is a delusional psychopathology that reflects no moral grounding. It is an amoral and unethical posture. What kind of morality is based in subjective self-interest? Marti Ahtisaari can decide what is right or wrong based solely on considerations of self-interest? What kind of morality is that? It is no morality at all. It shows a nihilistic contempt for morality and reason and the rule of law.

This tells us everything we need to know about Marti Ahtisaari. His position on Kosovo should not surprise anyone. "
http://serbianna.com/blogs/savich/?m=200704

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Martti Ahtisaari and Kosovo

Projections and Projective Identifications

Martti Ahtisaari, the Chairman Emeritus of the International Crisis Group (ICG), a globalist think tank sponsored by the US, asserted that all Serbs were “guilty as a nation” for seeking to prevent the secessionist/separatist Greater Albania movement launched by Albanian ultra-nationalist terrorists in 1998. He told the Serbian Kosovo negotiating team that “you are guilty as a nation.” This is an example of the racist concept of “collective guilt” typically applied to a group of people based on shared characteristics to punish that group. It is one of the most primitive and barbaric human conceptions ever devised. Anti-Semitism is based in the concept of “collective guilt”. Jews are alleged to have killed Jesus and to have rejected Christianity, therefore, all Jews are guilty, all Jews are criminal, and this murder of Jesus shows their criminal worldview, a conspiracy to destroy and enslave all Christians. Collective guilt is one of the most pernicious and dehumanizing concepts ever devised to ensure “justice”. Adolf Hitler was a major proponent of collective guilt and collective punishment. But how is Ahtisaari’s barbaric and primitive racist concept to be understood and explained? By this racist statement, Ahtisaari unwittingly slipped up and revealed his true motivations and intentions. It was what we can call a Freudian slip.

There is a universal human psychological mechanism that seeks to dispose of negative aspects of one’s own self and to transfer them onto others. This mechanism is known as projection. The mechanism of externalization is a cruder form of psychological projection wherein negative images of ourselves are projected onto others and certain images of others are internalized. There are different levels of projection. As adults develop, their perceptions of others, their thoughts of others, and their emotions for others, become ingrained and fixed in the conscious and subconscious. Projections become rigid and fixed over time.

In conflict scenarios, such as ethnic and religious and political conflicts, members of one group seek to define their own identity by externalizing or projecting unwanted or negative parts of themselves onto the enemy. They are projecting onto the enemy their own unwanted thoughts, guilt, knowledge of past crimes, anxiety, fear, shame, frustration, negative perceptions and immoral wishes and desires. It is never we who are guilty of anything, but always the other, them, the “guilty” enemy. Projections and externalizations onto an opposing group demonstrate a primitive and infantile psychological mechanism that divides the world arbitrarily between “us” and “them”. Adolf Hitler did it. He divided the world between the “good” Aryans and the “evil” or “bad” Jews and Slavs and Gypsies. The result is a bipolar dichotomy between “good” and “evil”. It is a simplistic Manichean division of the world into “black” and “white”. Not only is it an infantile mechanism. It is also a primordial and primitive one. It is an oversimplification that can easily cross into psychopathology. Invariably, we are “good,” and they are “bad” or “evil”. It is a division between the good and moral ”Us” and the evil and immoral “Them”, the Other. This is the fundamental psychological mechanism for enmity, for war, and for racism. You need projection and a dichotomy to have racism and to have war. Wars come and wars go. But the primeval mechanisms for war and for racism and for ethnic and religious enmity never change. This can be called the psychology of war and racism, or the psychopathology of politics.

Transference and Counter-Transference

Projections, transference, and counter-transference are important concepts in understanding war and racism and ethnic enmity.

Transference consists of possessing attitudes, emotions, feelings, images, perceptions, and thoughts about a person or a group in the present that are based on or derived from past experiences with and feelings toward others in one’s childhood, such as parents, siblings, teachers, and other authority figures. These past experiences leave a residue or memory in the subconscious. An intense transference can occur called transference neurosis. This results in a counter-transference on the part of those who interact with the person.

Ethnic and religious and political and national issues spark in us all raw emotions; they touch on fundamental questions of identity and meaning, on who we are. Notions of identity and meaning impact on our fundamental conceptions of ourselves. When threatened or challenged, we develop anxiety and fear and guilt. Anxiety is lessened when we regress to a primitive or primordial state of psychological projection. When we project our worst subconscious fears, anxieties, and guilt onto an enemy, our psychological tension is lessened. It feels good to transfer our subconscious anxiety onto an enemy, a “guilty” other, or a threatening stranger.

What is it that Ahtisaari is projecting onto the Serbian people, the criminal “Enemy”, or “the Other”? Ahtisaari, like his Albanian proxies, has a very well concealed Nazi past, a racist and genocidal past. Finland was one of Nazi Germany’s closest allies during the Holocaust. Finnish Nazi SS troops were one of the most committed and zealous Axis soldiers for Adolf Hitler. Finnish support for Adolf Hitler resulted in the deaths of Jews and Russians during the “Continuation War”. Ahtisaari’s father, Oiva, was a Nazi soldier during World War II, seeking to make the Nazi New Order in Europe a reality for all. Oiva Ahtisaari only obtained Finnish citizenship in 1929. The Ahtisaari family originally came to Finland from southern Norway. The Norwegian surname of Adolfsen was changed only in 1935. Ahtisaari has morphed his national or ethnic identity from Norwegian to Finnish. Any such “conversion” entails anxiety and guilt, a loss of certainly and equilibrium. He is like the fanatical new religious convert, seeking to hide his uncertainty, doubt, and anxiety by an overzealous display.
During World War II, Finland was not part of the “free world”, but one of Adolf Hitler’s closest Nazi allies. Adolf Hitler made a visit to Finland on June 6, 1942 to meet the Finnish President Risto Ryti and Carl Mannerheim, the commander of Finnish forces during the war. Both Heinrich Himmler and Gottlob Berger regarded the Finnish SS troops as the most committed and fanatical Nazis. It is this Nazi past that Ahtisaari is hiding. Ahtisaari is thus projecting his own concealed Nazi past onto the Serbian people.

His birth in Vyborg is important in understanding his worldview. This was a city originally settled by Swedish settlers. Its Swedish name reflects its Swedish origins. But Finnish ultra-nationalists changed the name to the Finnish Viipuri. The Russians retained the original Swedish name for the city. It later became incorporated into Russia. Today it is a part of Russia, north of St. Petersburg. The Swedish city of Vyborg was settled initially by Swedes and today is a part of Russia, but the surrounding area is a region where Karelians predominate. Karelians are described as a “Baltic-Finnic tribe”. Vyborg thus is a multi-ethnic city settled by Swedes, Russians, Germans, and Finns. No one group can claim it as their own. But this is just what Finland did after World War I. It was seized by Finnish military forces and annexed to Finland. To whom does Vyborg belong? How do you resolve this question? The parallels to Kosovo are obvious.

Kurt Waldheim, the UN Secretary-General, appointed Martti Ahtisaari as UN Commissioner for Namibia in 1977. In 1978, Ahtisaari was appointed Secretary-General Kurt Waldheim’s special representative for Namibia. Martti Ahtisaari also served as Under Secretary-General of the UN for Administration and Management under Kurt Waldheim. Kurt Waldheim has a connection to the former Yugoslavia. In 1942, Waldheim was an intelligence officer in the German Army during the Kozara anti-guerrilla operation by Axis forces. Thousands of civilians, mostly Serbian civilians, men, women, and children, were killed in the action. Waldheim is reported to have received a special award by the Ustasha NDH regime in Croatia for his role in the operation. No personal involvement of Waldheim in war crimes has been shown. Waldheim was, however, photographed reviewing the Nazi SS Division Prinz Eugen in Montenegro in 1943 and meeting with SS commander Artur Phleps. Waldheim worked under Alexander Lohr in “Southeastern Europe”. Lohr was subsequently tried for war crimes, convicted, and executed in Belgrade. In 1947, Waldheim was placed on the list of suspected war criminals by Yugoslavia and the UN. In 1987, Waldheim was placed on a US watch list and barred entry into the US, following controversial allegations that he had covered-up his role during World War II.

During World War II, Finland was willing to ally itself with Adolf Hitler and to form a Nazi Waffen SS Battalion “Nordost” and to join the 5th Waffen SS Division “Wiking” in order to annex Vyborg/Viipuri. Psychologically, Ahtisaari is conflicted about Vyborg/Viipuri. He sees himself as a victim of Soviet and later Russian “oppression” and “repression” and displacement. He sees himself as impotent. As a Finn, he experienced first-hand the concept of “Finlandization”, the political impotency of small and weak nations, the Baltic equivalent of Balkanization. The ICG, in fact a front for the US, is a way for him to engage in his thwarted power fantasies and delusions. The US allows him to play out his little power game. Martti Adolfsen gets to be Adolf Hitler, just like his father and his Finnish countrymen during the Holocaust. Martti gets to threaten Belgrade with annihilation in 1999 just like Hitler threatened Prague in 1938 and 1939. Martti gets to bomb and to flatten Belgrade like Hitler did in 1941. Martti gets to detach Kosovo from Serbia and to create an “independent” Kosova, just like Hitler did in 1941. Martti gets to act out his psychological delusions and neuroses. Of course, everyone knows he is a puppet with the US pulling the strings in this farce. The Serbian Orthodox people are surrogates for the Russian Orthodox people. The Slavs are to blame for Vyborg. This accounts for his anti-Serbian and anti-Slavic racism and bigotry and prejudice. In the 1930s, Jews were responsible for Bolshevism and Communism and Trotskyism. There is a transference here. Ahtisaari is projecting the Vyborg scenario onto Kosovo. He is a frustrated ultra-nationalist who is acting out this frustration in his racism against the Serbian people.
Ahtisaari identifies with the Albanian population in Kosovo, who, like the Finns, during World War II were allied with Adolf Hitler in creating a Greater Albania. Both Albanians and Finns have Nazi pasts. Both want to take over territory that does not belong to them under international law. Ahtisaari, absurdly, identifies with the “victims” and the likewise impotent Albanian people. Only in this way can he act out on his subconscious obsessions. He turns a blind eye to the Serbian victims in Kosovo. They don’t count. They don’t exist. The plight of the Serbian people is suppressed and repressed in his conscious and subconscious. Just like Pec became Peja and Jakovica became Jakova, so too, Vyborg may still become Viipuri again. This is what motivates Ahtisaari.

The Triumph of Racism and Self-Interested Bigotry

It is important to seek to understand the nature of all conflict and the mechanisms and rituals through which ethnic groups in conflict interact.

Such understanding loosens the rigid positions on both sides to a conflict and elucidates hitherto hidden aspects of the relationship and brings them to the surface where they can be analyzed, discussed, and resolved. There are psychological “poisons”, such as unconscious perceptions, fixations, traumas, and obsessions, that need to be removed. The conscious and unconscious motivations of actors to conflict are usually overlooked and minimized. Such understanding allows for the removal of conscious and unconscious resistances to adaptive change and to a fair and just resolution of conflicts. Effective diplomacy and a fair and lasting resolution to the Kosovo conflict require that the sources of bias and prejudice and coercion be eliminated. Ahtisaari demonstrates a crude racism and racial prejudice that can only lead to future conflict.
http://serbianna.com/blogs/savich/?p=24

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Martti Ahtisaari and Kosovo

Projections and Projective Identifications

Martti Ahtisaari, the Chairman Emeritus of the International Crisis Group (ICG), a globalist think tank sponsored by the US, asserted that all Serbs were “guilty as a nation” for seeking to prevent the secessionist/separatist Greater Albania movement launched by Albanian ultra-nationalist terrorists in 1998... höpö höpö lässy lässyn

Mihin pyrit tällä (typerällä) floodauksella?

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Liittynyt9.9.2005

Kysyttiinkö Kosovo casessa kaikkien osapuolten mielipidettä? Entä jos tästä innostuneena Espanjassa baskit alkavat voimallisemmin vaatimaan itsenäisyyttä?

Ilkka Luoma

"Sanat ovat vaillinaisuutta, mutta yritettävä on ~ kunnes kuvat aukeavat mieliin harmonisena jatkumona. Tajunnanvirta on ajallista vilinää sielun peilissä - silmissä, mutta jäikö yhteys ymmärrykseen ja mieleen saavuttamatta? ..."

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Ilkka Luoma
Kysyttiinkö Kosovo casessa kaikkien osapuolten mielipidettä? Entä jos tästä innostuneena Espanjassa baskit alkavat voimallisemmin vaatimaan itsenäisyyttä?

Baskithan ovat jo pitkään vaatineet itsenäisyyttä mutta Espanjan perustuslaki estää sen. Serbit pommittivat ja tuhosivat Kosovoa joten en ymmärrä miksi maakunnan albaanit haluaisivat olla osa Serbiaa. Kaikenlisäksi Serbian bkt henkeä kohti luultavasti nousi, kun Kosovo irrottautui siitä.

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Kysyttiinkö Kosovo casessa kaikkien osapuolten mielipidettä? Entä jos tästä innostuneena Espanjassa baskit alkavat voimallisemmin vaatimaan itsenäisyyttä?

Niin tai myö (paitsi Lassi).

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SKO

Serbit pommittivat ja tuhosivat Kosovoa joten en ymmärrä miksi maakunnan albaanit haluaisivat olla osa Serbiaa.

Serbit pommittivat ja tuhosivat Kosovoa nimenomaan sen vuoksi, että Kosovon albaanit eivät halunneet olla osa Serbiaa. Kosovon itsenäistyminen oli siis sodan syy, ei seuraus.

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JUMALAUTA .... nyt presidentin vaalit HETI poikkeuslailla, Niinistö
pressaksi ja NATO:oon HETI eikä 15. päivä ... !!!
Tämähän on kuin vanhoina neukkuaikoina, nämä ryssän rengit Haloska
ja Luimuoja vievät maan taas perikatoon, ryssän ORJUUTEEN ... !!!

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Halonen lykkää päätöstä tunnustaa Kosovo
Julkaistu: 12:46

Kari Huhta

helsingin sanomat

Tarja Halonen

Suomi lykkää Kosovon itsenäisyyden virallista tunnustamista.

Presidentti Tarja Halosen oli alkuperäisen aikataulun mukaan määrä hyväksyä hallituksen esitys Kosovon tunnustamiseksi presidentin esittelyssä perjantaina. Presidentin kansliasta kuitenkin kerrottiin Helsingin Sanomille keskiviikkona, että Kosovo ei ole mukana esityslistalla.

Virallisen tunnustuksen lykkääntyminen johtuu presidentin matka-aikataulusta, eikä siihen liity dramatiikka, sanottiin kansliasta. Halonen palaa Suomeen matkaltaan Aasiaan perjantaina aamuna.

Presidentin aikataulu ei kuitenkaan ole johtanut koko presidentin esittelyn peruuntumiseen.

Presidentin edustajat eivät osanneet sanoa, onko Kosovon tunnustaminen esille seuraavassa esittelyssä viikon kuluttua.

Virkamieslähteiden mukaan kaikki oli

Tämähän oli alusta lähtien selvää. Kanervan Ile kertoi Suomella olevan muutaman tunnin valmius Kosovon tunnustamiseen ja sitten kun Kosovo itsenäistyi, niin ilmoitettiin tunnustamisen valmistelujen kestävän viikkoja

Ranskan ulkoministeriö tunnusti kirjeitse, mutta Suomen ulkoministeriöllä ei varmaan sitten ole kirjekuoria??

Johan me näimme Halosen juhlivan ryssien kanssa 2 maailmansodan häviötämme itänaapurissa esim. Saksan Gerhard Shroderin kieltäytyessä.

Johan me tiedämme pikku punikkien Kanervan, Väyrysen ja Tuomiojan.

Maamme johto on Putinin valitsema.

Lahjoitetaan Ahvenanmaa ryssille vapauttamme vastaan ja luovuttakaamme Halonen, Väyrynen, Tuomioja ja Kanerva hyväntahdon osoituksena ja ikäänkuin sotakorvausten jälkikorkoina Putinille!

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