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Keijona
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Lisää niitä "tervellisiä ja ei haitallisia"  piristysainemainoksia.

Amfetamiinin käyttäjät puolustaa amfetamiinia, alkogoli on lääkettä alkoholistille ja kahvi hyvää ja  terveellistä kahvin juojien mielestä.

"Psykoaktiivinen aine tai psykotrooppinen aine tarkoittaa sellaista kemiallista yhdistettä, joka ylittää veri-aivoesteen ja vaikuttaa ihmisen keskushermostoon muuttaen aivotoimintaa ja tajunnantilaa tavanomaisesta.[1] Psykoaktiivisia yhdisteitä sisältävät muiden muassa kahvi (kofeiini),"

https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psykoaktiivinen_aine

Päihteet ovat farmakologisen määritelmän mukaan ilman hoidollista tavoitetta käytetyt, psyykkisiin toimintoihin vaikuttavat aineet.

https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A4ihde

Rikkaalla riittävästi, köyhä haluaa lisää.

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Keijona
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Viestejä21181

Lainaus:
Rinnastat metamfetamiinin kahviin? Ei kai siinä sitten mitään, samanlaisia aineitahan ne...

Päihteitä molemmat. toinen voimakkaampi kuin toinen. mutta  tietenkin sitä mietoa pitää  kiskoa suuria ja määriä kauan, että samanlaiset seuraukset.

Rikkaalla riittävästi, köyhä haluaa lisää.

Japetus
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Viestejä12478

Keijona kirjoitti:
Lisää niitä "tervellisiä ja ei haitallisia"  piristysainemainoksia.

Amfetamiinin käyttäjät puolustaa amfetamiinia, alkogoli on lääkettä alkoholistille ja kahvi hyvää ja  terveellistä kahvin juojien mielestä.

Onhan se tietenkin tyhmästi jaksavalle kova juttu, kun totuus ei sovi arvomaailmaan. Sitten täytyy erityisen tyhmästi hinkuttaa tutkijoita kahvinjuojiksi ja ad hominemilla vääntää tulokset vääriksi. Mutta, mutta:

https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_hominem

Oi voi. Nyt pitäisi kyllä älytä tyhmän jaksajan luovuttaa.

Olli S. paljastaa salaisuutensa: "Mä puhun tahallani ristiin, että Japetus saisi oikeita aiheita syyttää mua."
Sääpeikolla leikkaa: "No ihmisen vaikutus ei ole alle 50% ja ei ole alle 50%... eiköhän se olisi silloin 50-50 suurimman osan mukaan papereista... näin nopeasti pääteltynä"
Keijona ymmärtää naisia: "Onkohan sellaista munasolua edes olemassa ? Onko joku nähnyt sellaisen?"

jussipussi
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"Summary:
What's the healthiest way to make a fresh cup of coffee? A new study examining links between coffee brewing methods and risks of heart attacks and death has concluded that filtered brew is safest.

..Between 1985 and 2003, the study enrolled a representative sample of the Norwegian population: 508,747 healthy men and women aged 20 to 79. Participants completed a questionnaire on the amount and type of coffee consumed. Data was also collected on variables that could influence both coffee consumption and heart diseases, so that these could be accounted for in the analysis. For example, smoking, education, physical activity, height, weight, blood pressure, and cholesterol.

Participants were followed for an average of 20 years. A total of 46,341 participants died. Of those, 12,621 deaths were due to cardiovascular disease. Of the cardiovascular deaths, 6,202 were caused by a heart attack.

Overall, coffee drinking was not a dangerous habit. In fact, drinking filtered coffee was safer than no coffee at all. Compared to no coffee, filtered brew was linked with a 15% reduced risk of death from any cause during follow up. For death from cardiovascular disease, filtered brew was associated with a 12% decreased risk of death in men and a 20% lowered risk of death in women compared to no coffee. The lowest mortality was among consumers of 1 to 4 cups of filtered coffee per day.

Professor Thelle said: "The finding that those drinking the filtered beverage did a little better than those not drinking coffee at all could not be explained by any other variable such as age, gender, or lifestyle habits. So we think this observation is true."Between 1985 and 2003, the study enrolled a representative sample of the Norwegian population: 508,747 healthy men and women aged 20 to 79. Participants completed a questionnaire on the amount and type of coffee consumed. Data was also collected on variables that could influence both coffee consumption and heart diseases, so that these could be accounted for in the analysis. For example, smoking, education, physical activity, height, weight, blood pressure, and cholesterol.

Participants were followed for an average of 20 years. A total of 46,341 participants died. Of those, 12,621 deaths were due to cardiovascular disease. Of the cardiovascular deaths, 6,202 were caused by a heart attack.

Overall, coffee drinking was not a dangerous habit. In fact, drinking filtered coffee was safer than no coffee at all. Compared to no coffee, filtered brew was linked with a 15% reduced risk of death from any cause during follow up. For death from cardiovascular disease, filtered brew was associated with a 12% decreased risk of death in men and a 20% lowered risk of death in women compared to no coffee. The lowest mortality was among consumers of 1 to 4 cups of filtered coffee per day.

Professor Thelle said: "The finding that those drinking the filtered beverage did a little better than those not drinking coffee at all could not be explained by any other variable such as age, gender, or lifestyle habits. So we think this observation is true.""
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200422214101.htm .

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jussipussi kirjoitti:
"Summary:
What's the healthiest way to make a fresh cup of coffee? A new study examining links between coffee brewing methods and risks of heart attacks and death has concluded that filtered brew is safest.

..Between 1985 and 2003, the study enrolled a representative sample of the Norwegian population: 508,747 healthy men and women aged 20 to 79. Participants completed a questionnaire on the amount and type of coffee consumed. Data was also collected on variables that could influence both coffee consumption and heart diseases, so that these could be accounted for in the analysis. For example, smoking, education, physical activity, height, weight, blood pressure, and cholesterol.

Participants were followed for an average of 20 years. A total of 46,341 participants died. Of those, 12,621 deaths were due to cardiovascular disease. Of the cardiovascular deaths, 6,202 were caused by a heart attack.

Overall, coffee drinking was not a dangerous habit. In fact, drinking filtered coffee was safer than no coffee at all. Compared to no coffee, filtered brew was linked with a 15% reduced risk of death from any cause during follow up. For death from cardiovascular disease, filtered brew was associated with a 12% decreased risk of death in men and a 20% lowered risk of death in women compared to no coffee. The lowest mortality was among consumers of 1 to 4 cups of filtered coffee per day.

Professor Thelle said: "The finding that those drinking the filtered beverage did a little better than those not drinking coffee at all could not be explained by any other variable such as age, gender, or lifestyle habits. So we think this observation is true."Between 1985 and 2003, the study enrolled a representative sample of the Norwegian population: 508,747 healthy men and women aged 20 to 79. Participants completed a questionnaire on the amount and type of coffee consumed. Data was also collected on variables that could influence both coffee consumption and heart diseases, so that these could be accounted for in the analysis. For example, smoking, education, physical activity, height, weight, blood pressure, and cholesterol.

Participants were followed for an average of 20 years. A total of 46,341 participants died. Of those, 12,621 deaths were due to cardiovascular disease. Of the cardiovascular deaths, 6,202 were caused by a heart attack.

Overall, coffee drinking was not a dangerous habit. In fact, drinking filtered coffee was safer than no coffee at all. Compared to no coffee, filtered brew was linked with a 15% reduced risk of death from any cause during follow up. For death from cardiovascular disease, filtered brew was associated with a 12% decreased risk of death in men and a 20% lowered risk of death in women compared to no coffee. The lowest mortality was among consumers of 1 to 4 cups of filtered coffee per day.

Professor Thelle said: "The finding that those drinking the filtered beverage did a little better than those not drinking coffee at all could not be explained by any other variable such as age, gender, or lifestyle habits. So we think this observation is true.""
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200422214101.htm .

Olisi kiva tutkia ristiin teen tai vaikka kuuman kaakaon kanssa, koska itse oletan hyötyjen tulevan lähinnä siitä, että molemmat ovat kuumaa juomaa, jotka herättävät lämmönsäätelyn genetiikan.

jussipussi
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Minijehova kirjoitti:
jussipussi kirjoitti:
"Summary:
What's the healthiest way to make a fresh cup of coffee? A new study examining links between coffee brewing methods and risks of heart attacks and death has concluded that filtered brew is safest.

..Between 1985 and 2003, the study enrolled a representative sample of the Norwegian population: 508,747 healthy men and women aged 20 to 79. Participants completed a questionnaire on the amount and type of coffee consumed. Data was also collected on variables that could influence both coffee consumption and heart diseases, so that these could be accounted for in the analysis. For example, smoking, education, physical activity, height, weight, blood pressure, and cholesterol.

Participants were followed for an average of 20 years. A total of 46,341 participants died. Of those, 12,621 deaths were due to cardiovascular disease. Of the cardiovascular deaths, 6,202 were caused by a heart attack.

Overall, coffee drinking was not a dangerous habit. In fact, drinking filtered coffee was safer than no coffee at all. Compared to no coffee, filtered brew was linked with a 15% reduced risk of death from any cause during follow up. For death from cardiovascular disease, filtered brew was associated with a 12% decreased risk of death in men and a 20% lowered risk of death in women compared to no coffee. The lowest mortality was among consumers of 1 to 4 cups of filtered coffee per day.

Professor Thelle said: "The finding that those drinking the filtered beverage did a little better than those not drinking coffee at all could not be explained by any other variable such as age, gender, or lifestyle habits. So we think this observation is true."Between 1985 and 2003, the study enrolled a representative sample of the Norwegian population: 508,747 healthy men and women aged 20 to 79. Participants completed a questionnaire on the amount and type of coffee consumed. Data was also collected on variables that could influence both coffee consumption and heart diseases, so that these could be accounted for in the analysis. For example, smoking, education, physical activity, height, weight, blood pressure, and cholesterol.

Participants were followed for an average of 20 years. A total of 46,341 participants died. Of those, 12,621 deaths were due to cardiovascular disease. Of the cardiovascular deaths, 6,202 were caused by a heart attack.

Overall, coffee drinking was not a dangerous habit. In fact, drinking filtered coffee was safer than no coffee at all. Compared to no coffee, filtered brew was linked with a 15% reduced risk of death from any cause during follow up. For death from cardiovascular disease, filtered brew was associated with a 12% decreased risk of death in men and a 20% lowered risk of death in women compared to no coffee. The lowest mortality was among consumers of 1 to 4 cups of filtered coffee per day.

Professor Thelle said: "The finding that those drinking the filtered beverage did a little better than those not drinking coffee at all could not be explained by any other variable such as age, gender, or lifestyle habits. So we think this observation is true.""
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200422214101.htm .

Olisi kiva tutkia ristiin teen tai vaikka kuuman kaakaon kanssa, koska itse oletan hyötyjen tulevan lähinnä siitä, että molemmat ovat kuumaa juomaa, jotka herättävät lämmönsäätelyn genetiikan.

En löisi veto kuumuuden puolesta,  Syyt löytyy suurimmaksi osaksi erilaisista polyfenolisista yhdisteistä joita löytyy kahvista, teestä ja kaakaosta. Tutkimusta näistä on kohtuullisen paljon.  Esim kahvi on suomalaisten suurin yksittäinen polyfenolien lähde. Toki kofeiini vaikuttaa hieman myös.

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jussipussi kirjoitti:
Minijehova kirjoitti:
jussipussi kirjoitti:
"Summary:
What's the healthiest way to make a fresh cup of coffee? A new study examining links between coffee brewing methods and risks of heart attacks and death has concluded that filtered brew is safest.

..Between 1985 and 2003, the study enrolled a representative sample of the Norwegian population: 508,747 healthy men and women aged 20 to 79. Participants completed a questionnaire on the amount and type of coffee consumed. Data was also collected on variables that could influence both coffee consumption and heart diseases, so that these could be accounted for in the analysis. For example, smoking, education, physical activity, height, weight, blood pressure, and cholesterol.

Participants were followed for an average of 20 years. A total of 46,341 participants died. Of those, 12,621 deaths were due to cardiovascular disease. Of the cardiovascular deaths, 6,202 were caused by a heart attack.

Overall, coffee drinking was not a dangerous habit. In fact, drinking filtered coffee was safer than no coffee at all. Compared to no coffee, filtered brew was linked with a 15% reduced risk of death from any cause during follow up. For death from cardiovascular disease, filtered brew was associated with a 12% decreased risk of death in men and a 20% lowered risk of death in women compared to no coffee. The lowest mortality was among consumers of 1 to 4 cups of filtered coffee per day.

Professor Thelle said: "The finding that those drinking the filtered beverage did a little better than those not drinking coffee at all could not be explained by any other variable such as age, gender, or lifestyle habits. So we think this observation is true."Between 1985 and 2003, the study enrolled a representative sample of the Norwegian population: 508,747 healthy men and women aged 20 to 79. Participants completed a questionnaire on the amount and type of coffee consumed. Data was also collected on variables that could influence both coffee consumption and heart diseases, so that these could be accounted for in the analysis. For example, smoking, education, physical activity, height, weight, blood pressure, and cholesterol.

Participants were followed for an average of 20 years. A total of 46,341 participants died. Of those, 12,621 deaths were due to cardiovascular disease. Of the cardiovascular deaths, 6,202 were caused by a heart attack.

Overall, coffee drinking was not a dangerous habit. In fact, drinking filtered coffee was safer than no coffee at all. Compared to no coffee, filtered brew was linked with a 15% reduced risk of death from any cause during follow up. For death from cardiovascular disease, filtered brew was associated with a 12% decreased risk of death in men and a 20% lowered risk of death in women compared to no coffee. The lowest mortality was among consumers of 1 to 4 cups of filtered coffee per day.

Professor Thelle said: "The finding that those drinking the filtered beverage did a little better than those not drinking coffee at all could not be explained by any other variable such as age, gender, or lifestyle habits. So we think this observation is true.""
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200422214101.htm .

Olisi kiva tutkia ristiin teen tai vaikka kuuman kaakaon kanssa, koska itse oletan hyötyjen tulevan lähinnä siitä, että molemmat ovat kuumaa juomaa, jotka herättävät lämmönsäätelyn genetiikan.

En löisi veto kuumuuden puolesta,  Syyt löytyy suurimmaksi osaksi erilaisista polyfenolisista yhdisteistä joita löytyy kahvista, teestä ja kaakaosta. Tutkimusta näistä on kohtuullisen paljon.  Esim kahvi on suomalaisten suurin yksittäinen polyfenolien lähde. Toki kofeiini vaikuttaa hieman myös.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2504011/

Xenohormesis: Sensing the Chemical Cues of Other Species

Abstract

Many plant molecules interact with and modulate key regulators of mammalian physiology in ways that are beneficial to health, but why? We propose that heterotrophs (animals and fungi) are able to sense chemical cues synthesized by plants and other autotrophs in response to stress. These cues provide advance warning about deteriorating environmental conditions, allowing the heterotrophs to prepare for adversity while conditions are still favorable.

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25 kuppia kahvia päivässä on pervesssiä.
Unet sillä ainaki pilaa ja huuhtoo vesiliukoset vitamiinit veke kropasta.
Saattapi hermostuneisuttakin tulla.

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Aslakki kirjoitti:
Pannukahvi on parasta.

Juu, mutta pannun on oltava yleensä mutterin muotoinen ja vesi menee alaosaan.

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jussipussi kirjoitti:
Filtterikahvin etu on siinä että paperifiltteriin jää kahvin rasvayhdisteitä jotka nostavat/nostaisivat kolesterolia.

Huonosti tehty tutkimus. Se on se homokahvin (kafe latte) sokeri, joka kolestrolia nostaa. Tossa oli tutkittu noita kahviloiden sokeroituja litkuja ja tehty taas väärä johtopäätös.

Aslakki
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Minijehova kirjoitti:
Aslakki kirjoitti:
Pannukahvi on parasta.

Juu, mutta pannun on oltava yleensä mutterin muotoinen ja vesi menee alaosaan.

Tästäkään nautinnosta ei ole mitään haittaa, noin terveydellisesti, kun muutamia kertoja kesäkauden aikana mökillä keittää aamupannukahvit, aijjettä.

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Kääpä kirjoitti:
jussipussi kirjoitti:
Filtterikahvin etu on siinä että paperifiltteriin jää kahvin rasvayhdisteitä jotka nostavat/nostaisivat kolesterolia.

Huonosti tehty tutkimus. Se on se homokahvin (kafe latte) sokeri, joka kolestrolia nostaa. Tossa oli tutkittu noita kahviloiden sokeroituja litkuja ja tehty taas väärä johtopäätös.

Ei latteen ole pakko sokeria laittaa. Minulle on usein päivän koko ateria latte, jossa n. 2dl espressoa, 5dl punaista maitoa ja 5 teelusikallista sokeria. Parasta maailmassa, sillä valkoinen huippusokeri boostaa muutenkin ravintorikasta ja aivoystävällistä juomaa, jossa on paljon vahvaa kahvia ja paljon rasvaista maitoa kaikkine lisineen.

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Minijehova kirjoitti:
Kääpä kirjoitti:
jussipussi kirjoitti:
Filtterikahvin etu on siinä että paperifiltteriin jää kahvin rasvayhdisteitä jotka nostavat/nostaisivat kolesterolia.

Huonosti tehty tutkimus. Se on se homokahvin (kafe latte) sokeri, joka kolestrolia nostaa. Tossa oli tutkittu noita kahviloiden sokeroituja litkuja ja tehty taas väärä johtopäätös.

Ei latteen ole pakko sokeria laittaa. Minulle on usein päivän koko ateria latte, jossa n. 2dl espressoa, 5dl punaista maitoa ja 5 teelusikallista sokeria. Parasta maailmassa, sillä valkoinen huippusokeri boostaa muutenkin ravintorikasta ja aivoystävällistä juomaa, jossa on paljon vahvaa kahvia ja paljon rasvaista maitoa kaikkine lisineen.

Kaikki riippuu kokonaismääristä ja missä pisteessä itse on. (Diepetes 2 kynnyksellä vai ei.)
Kun läski vetää sen saman ihrojensa sisään niin vaikutus on ihan toinen.

Vierailija

Mutta pointti oli se ettei kyse ole suodatinpussista vaan siitä mitä muuta siihen kahviin lisää.

Vierailija

Ja kolestroli on tarpeellista. Vanhemmilla ihmisilla, varsinkin naisilla korkeahko kolestroli on hyväksi.

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